I generally don’t like to use my blog as any sort of political platform. It’s risky and usually pretty polarizing for anyone to grandstand about political beliefs so I keep mine to myself, for the most part.
But, when it comes to gay marriage, sometimes I just can’t resist.
So, here’s a pie chart for you. ‘Cause everyone likes pie. Right?
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Confessions of a Serial Swooper 
Hilarious – since I’m in California – the epicenter of the current gay marriage debate – I’ve considered doing a post as well. I’m sure I would eliminate some readers, but on that topic? Not sure I care 😉
shared this on FB……….I wish we could send those nay-sayers to fight wars so they would get what important is. i’m ashamed to share the planet with them. Maybe their humans and we’re the aliens. that would be sweet.
Thx for taking a chance,
Hmmm. I’m actually typing my comment s-l-o–w-l-y…Because I tend to not only speak, but to type before I think.
Okay, so here’s the deal. I have a Christian world point of view. Many people don’t. I get that. The consequence of gay marriage is not just “gays marry.” To me, it has a much bigger consequence. Scripture (again Biblical world view here) is very clear that man is not to lay down with man, and vice versa. So, for me, to condone gay marriage is to disagree with scripture. I can’t do this…
That being said, I also am against premarital sex. And abortion. I’m against all sorts of issues that are considered not a big deal or label me as naive and old fashioned…Scripture is also clear on this. If I compromise on one issue, then I have to compromise on them all. This, of course, does not mean I’m perfect and without fault. I’m full of faults and sins and all sorts of stuff that God wants me to turn away from. Everyone does. That is why I have to have Jesus as my savior. I am completely unable to achieve holiness and salvation on my own. It comes only through repenting of my sins, confessing them to Christ and accepting Him as my savior.
Now, my slate is clean. I have the assurance of eternity in heaven with Christ…
Okay, so why did I go on a tangent about my undersevedness? (is that a word?) Well, I don’t want anyone who reads this post to think I’m self-righteous and judgmental… I’m not either of those things. I am not the judge. God is. He is my compass of right and wrong. I screw that up enough on my own when I refuse to obey him…How can I encourage others to continue in a sin by condoning their “marriage” when I know that God has said very clearly it is a sin? That is silly!
So, I’m not saying gays are going to come and get me and harm me or whatever. I am to love all people and not judge anyone. I have many gay friends at work. They know where I stand. I hope I’ve been able to convey my concerns in a loving way to them. I refuse to be silent to them, or not be friendly, or whatever, but I also refuse to embrace their homosexuality. They all realize that I consider it a sin…Just like lying. Or gossip. Or disobedience. Whatever. It’s all sin. It all comes between us and God. We are all to repent of it and run full tilt into the arms of our savior who will love us, no matter what we do or have done. He will never turn his back on one who seeks Him. I may be the only person who ever tells them that God loves them, that he wants them to come to him. So, I am willing to put myself on the line and tell them what God says…Not me. God.
I also know that God is in control of the rulers of this world. He is able to bless our country or turn his back on it due to the sins we choose to commit and even embrace. I fear for our country if we legalize gay marriage. I fear if God ever turns His back on us. I fear my children growing up in a world where there is no concrete right and wrong. If I say that some things are okay, even if scripture says it’s wrong, how do I teach them to know what’s right? I think it’s terrible to say “follow your heart.” WHAT?? How many times have I followed my heart and ignored what I knew I SHOULD do and was doubly hurt by my own choices and actions. I am not raising children to follow their heart, or follow what feels right to them. I am raising my children to seek God’s will in every decision they make, from what school to go to, what career to choose, what spouse He has for them, and even if they should buy that skirt because maybe it is a want and not a need, and there is a higher purpose for their money that month…
I don’t know all the answers. I know that saying “yes” to gay marriage is saying “no” to God and His will. So. Short story very long, I say no to gay marriage. I pray that it will not be legalized. I pray for the states that have passed it to repeal it. I pray that my state (Oklahoma) continues to stand firm on the issue.
Whew! My mind is tumbling. I know I didn’t type slowly enough, because I think my comment needs some serious reworking. However, I’m going to post it anyway.
So, here goes…click!
Andi, you only have man’s word of what God said or did not say.
Andi – This line summed up your post for me: “… I am not raising children to follow their heart, or follow what feels right to them. …”
Isn’t that what parents are supposed to do? Teach our kids right from wrong? So that they WILL follow their hearts and do right and do good?
Please, I’ll take gay marriage over stoning harlots to death, tyvm.
Okay: When I say follow your heart, it’s more of, doing what feels good. What feels good isn’t always right. I teach my girls to heed the Holy Spirit, and God’s Word, not what their flesh wants to do…And if something feels wrong, it’s WRONG!
Stoning harlots: Where did that come from? Christians don’t stone harlots. We are expressly FORBIDDEN to do so! “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” EVERYONE has sin, so nobody can cast stones. That being said, Christ also told the woman in this story, to “rise up, go and sin no more.” He had compassion on her. He told her to pick herself up and change her life. (John 8:1-11.) I am to follow Christ and emulate him. He hung out with beggars, lepers, prostitutes, thieves (tax collectors), the poor, the rich, EVERYONE! However, he NEVER condoned or ignored sin when he saw it. He was compassionate in telling them to repent of sin so that they may have eternal life. If we just let sin be sin and ignore it, then we are turning our backs on people.
That is not loving them. Yes, loving them. When you love someone, you confront them when they are doing wrong. you don’t ignore it, and hope it all turns out okay. Gay marriage is wrong. Does being gay condemn anyone to hell? NO. Not having a relationship with Jesus Christ is what condemns you to hell. Again, that is not my word. That is the very Word of God. “For God so loved the world that whoseover believes in him may have eternal life. For God did not send his Son to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.” John 3:16-18
Ah, and that whole weird Denver group that holds the “God hates fags” signs are not Christians. I don’t care what they say. Not one thing they do is in Scripture, so how can they be? I think they just give us a bad name as Christians…God loves gay people. God loves all people, regardless of their choices, and wants all people to come to Him. To say that he hates people is just wrong…Saying he hates sin is right, but He is willing to forgive all who come to him.
God is love. Everything he does is out of love. He’s perfect, I’m not. I don’t understand His ways, and I never fully will. However, I will always trust in Him to know what’s right.
Oh, and one last thing, then I promise I’ll move on to lighter topics. Joanne, the Bible is not man’s word. It is the very breath of God. “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.” 2 Timothy 3:16.
I realize that if you don’t believe in God, then you don’t believe in Scripture. And, I also want to say that I’m not angry by any of your viewpoints. I love “discussions” like this. I am saddened to think that you may not believe in God’s Word, because I want everyone to have the promise of eternal life with Jesus.
Okay. That’s it. I promise to lighten up!
Maybe….
ANDI:”Does being gay condemn anyone to hell? NO. Not having a relationship with Jesus Christ is what condemns you to hell.”
JOANNE: Then a gay person/couple who have a relationship with Jesus Christ will NOT go to hell. I know a lot of GLBT people who attend their chosen house of worship on a regular basis. I never believed one had to worship in some building. Does God not hear your pleas during nightly prayers?
ANDI: “God is love. Everything he does is out of love.”
JOANNE: Why have I heard, while growing up, “I’ll put the fear of God in you if…..” I was raised a Catholic & went thru all the rituals. When I learned to think for myself, I found a lot of holes & manipulation in the teachings. I believe there was a good&kind person named Jesus who had a following. The same can be said for the tele-evangelists who have their flock. Those folks give those tele-evangelist lots of money as a way into heaven when all they have to do is “Do unto others as they would do unto you”
“The earliest form of the Golden Rule in religion dates prior to Confucianism and Buddhism. Confucius is attributed with a statement in the 6th Century BCE that one should not extend harm to others which one would not wish for one’s self. Buddhism documents also dating from the 6th century BCE include the quote “Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.”
So, Andi, I am not preaching or teaching. These are facts. Worship however you please, but don’t condemn any member of the human race for trying to find happiness thru love.
Apologies to “serialswooper” for continuing this but I just couldn’t let it go by. I’m done also.
nuff said
Oooh, boy. You touched a live one on this, huh?